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Reshade and The Movies?

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Mensaje por JD89 Vie 16 Jun 2023, 13:41

I don't know if this can be done in The Movies, but anyone consider the idea to use rashade to enanche the graphic a little bit?

I don't have this game anymore, so can't try, but I used with moviestorm, isn't quite a fast process to be honest, cause he doesnt work directly with moviestorm but I have to use it in a videoplayer and then record my screen with softweare like obs.

Beside a small graphic improvement, like smoothing some object angle with stuff like FXAA or SAA or adding a various type of sharpen, it have a lot of effects like lens flare, color grading, specific type of bloom...maybe you can give it a try! I leave here a fast comparison video, yt compression messed up and make viewing the difference a little bit more harder so I leave also a mega link.




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Mensaje por DibujanteTM Vie 16 Jun 2023, 15:27

Yes sir, I tried. Not worth good


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Mensaje por JD89 Vie 16 Jun 2023, 15:41

It was after reading your response on my post where you talk about upgrading graphic that I came up with the idea of using reshade. Related to the movies is not worth for? Poor enanchment effect? Time consuming?
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Mensaje por DibujanteTM Vie 16 Jun 2023, 18:53

Reshade was the last "add-on" I tried for TM, 1 week ago from now. I also tried RTX (not supported), gesodato, and somemore. I tried Reshade with Marty McFly plugins with identical results.

It is true you can tweak some colors and enhance textures, but that's something we already get from Sony Vegas, Premiere..., the software we're used to use. I looked for this plugin because nowadays lighting renderers do the half of the work (I was specifically looking for Ray Tracing). The Movies game runs in Directx 9.0c, which is a pretty early version to work on Ray Tracing and other interesting stuff. That's why I got the same results as using the video editor. When we go for exporting the video, we usually record the footage using Fraps. But we need to record the whole picture and then crop it; in this picture there're multiple icons. Each time I tweak some color grading, brightness, etc..., these icons project shadows over themselves, so that the footage get's blurred.

Then I tried with some Antialiasing and shader effects to see if I could get a better geometry for the models. But once again, it enhances the icons over the screen adding some depth and the game actors and objects threshold get's tight, so it loses realism. It doesn't look better than setting your graphic cards presets for boosted quality. And to be fair, this seems more "secure" to do, because Reshade will tweak everything that appears in the screen.

Nevertheless, Reshade would be an excellent feature if we just apply that visual setting and skip the post-production in Sony Vegas. But applying these visual effects would bring performance issues (even if you run it in performance mode). I also checked a Depth of Field effect which was great because it was tracking the actor during the whole scene (this is something faster than if you do it in video editting, be said). But once again, we duplicate the footage, recording the actor in a chroma key in one footage, and recording the same camera movement in set with no actor. Then we easily merge them and apply the effects on the second footage.

In time consuming, it's a great option anyway, but the same visual presets might work for certain scene conditions (daylight, warm tones...) and not for others. Plus each time I have to select these presets my mouse cursor is moving in the other side of the sceen, and I accidentally clicked on "exit" some times mellado


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Mensaje por JD89 Sáb 17 Jun 2023, 00:56

I remeber doing the same thing with The Movies, capture with fraps then crop, I understand what you mean, reshade effect applies to the ui making a mess. I found the same problem with moviestorm but resolved appliyng reshade to vlc instead. I was impressed with various bloom and lens flare effect, kind of effects that I never found or tryed with a editing software
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Mensaje por DibujanteTM Sáb 17 Jun 2023, 01:10

I never thought about applying reshade to vlc, good point. I still think time investment would be even compared with video-editing. Sony Vegas has a lot of lens flare vfx, but I have to recognise some of these features require extra installations (BCC+, Red Giant Universe...) that we're not that used to run. This is right.

You could also look for lens flare footages. They come ready with chroma key, so you can just adjust alpha channel and overlap. I'd say ReShade would make this work shorten, BUT, as long as you get used to it in Sony Vegas, you'll be faster than if you had to check your video clips one by one (because the preset applies to the whole footage) good


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